Curse

Drognan · Oct 18, 2005, 02:39 PM // 14:39

Sorry if this seems a little noobish, but WTF is the big deal about this item. I know it has something to do with a monk build, but why would you want your HP to be dropped by 50 points in the first place?

Just curious...

Hockster · Oct 18, 2005, 02:41 PM // 14:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drognan

Sorry if this seems a little noobish, but WTF is the big deal about this item. I know it has something to do with a monk build, but why would you want your HP to be dropped by 50 points in the first place?

Just curious...

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=32980

quickmonty · Oct 18, 2005, 02:44 PM // 14:44

Protective Bond - Enchantment Spell
While you maintain this "Enchantment", target ally cannot take more than 5% damage at one time. When Protective Bond prevents damage, you lose 6-3 energy or the spell ends.

Lower HP = less damage = more efficient healing. Used for solo monk farming builds.

wiz12268 · Oct 18, 2005, 06:30 PM // 18:30

Item is overrated, and you can get plenty of -20 itmes with better mods.

If all people are doing is hunting griffons, then they can easilly do that with 105, and NO minus HPs. I can take as many griffs as I can aggro with 105, and I never die.

It does help against enemies that cause bleeding, but not a lot of people can hunt those anyways unless someone gives them a blueprint and a mp. Even then they get wiped pretty fast, especially if there is an interupt enemy there as well.

As for whether or not it is nerfed. Doesn't really matter IMO, since there are A LOT of them kicking around. Most are 5-10K. Anyone that is farming doesn't care as they will make it up pretty quickly. If they did nerf it, I also doubt it would get seriously more expensive. if it did then one or two guys might actully buyone, and everyone else would not be able to sell.

It doesn't do a whole lot. If you are not in UW just die and you get down to 33 health anyways.

VERY overrated.

RobotMULE · Oct 18, 2005, 06:58 PM // 18:58

but if you die and get 33 hp, then as soon as you kill a few mobs, your health goes back up very quickly.

wiz12268 · Oct 18, 2005, 07:07 PM // 19:07

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Originally Posted by RobotMULE

but if you die and get 33 hp, then as soon as you kill a few mobs, your health goes back up very quickly.

So what, die again if you can't do it with 105.

I only die with 105 when I am trying 7-9 giants and a couple of scorpions. Usually because I get an interupt that stops a divine heal.

RobotMULE · Oct 18, 2005, 09:49 PM // 21:49

Lets say you're fighting a group of 15 griffons and 15 minotaurs at once.

With 33 hp from dp, what can happen is all the minotaurs die before the griffons do (I forget which really die first but its just an example). Then you have 105 hp again, and the remaining 15 griffons may kill you. Its a hassle to run all the way back to pick up all the loot just sitting there.

Basically with 55 hps, its easier to kill a larger group and move on directly to the next group without having to die again and run all the way back.

The effect of healing breeze or mending (combined with prot spirit of course) is basically doubled with 55 vs 105 hp, which allows you to take groups twice as large.

wiz12268 · Oct 18, 2005, 10:14 PM // 22:14

You won't be able to aggro that many. I am not sure but I think the most that can actually get to you is 12 enemies. Not to mention that griffons will only come in 2 at a time so you aggro 4 groups you get 8 on you and 4 watching.

I have tried to aggro as many as I can, I think 11 was the most I got (not counting scorpions and elementals) which are ranged. But unlesss you have SOJ and get it off those are guys you don't want to mess with.

But I understand what you are saying. But against Griffons and minotaurs you shouldn't be dying at 105 or at 55. But by the time you get to 105 you should have enough of them killed to take the dmg. Think it takes 8 or 9 kills to get 15% DP erased.

boxterduke · Oct 19, 2005, 02:54 AM // 02:54

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Originally Posted by boxterduke

Well I got mine a couple of weeks ago from the quest. I still have not done the quest with my other 3 characters.
I will try tonight and post to let you know.

Ok just did the quest and got the item. I have 2 now.
2 more to go.

Kool Pajamas · Oct 19, 2005, 04:45 AM // 04:45

Its not clearly labeled in the QUEST DESCRIPTION.

Savio · Oct 19, 2005, 04:47 AM // 04:47

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Originally Posted by Kool Pajamas

Its not clearly labeled in the QUEST DESCRIPTION.

No item is. You can't fully tell what a quest reward is until you get the physical (digital?) item.

Cyrinn · Jan 16, 2006, 04:31 PM // 16:31

I just tried to get the quest and I could not. Definitely nerfed as of 1/16/05

Savio · Jan 16, 2006, 10:29 PM // 22:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyrinn

I just tried to get the quest and I could not. Definitely nerfed as of 1/16/05

You couldn't get the quest? Did you do the prerequisites?
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=54682

I pwnd U · Jan 16, 2006, 11:00 PM // 23:00

They didnt nerf it, i just got it on my monk by doing the quest (finished it 10 minutes ago!!!)

theclam · Jan 16, 2006, 11:19 PM // 23:19

The guy gives two quests. Only the second one gives the item.

Cyrinn · Jan 17, 2006, 01:30 AM // 01:30

Thanks for the posts...I did "Counting the Fallen" and still no "cities" quest available. Did I miss something?

kvndoom · Jan 17, 2006, 01:41 AM // 01:41

You have to complete your first mission, Northern Wall I think, and "Counting" quest, then he'll give the quest to you. My Ranger just got the item 2 days ago, so it hasn't gone anywhere.

Former Ruling · Jan 17, 2006, 04:15 AM // 04:15

I've gotten it on 4 more characters now (I deleted a few that were just past doing the quest and redid character), one merely a few days ago.

I sell them from 6k-10k depending on how many minutes I want to spam selling it in Ascalon. Really isn't anything big.

Jetdoc · Jan 17, 2006, 03:00 PM // 15:00

You can find a botter in Ascalon District 1 buying them for 10K almost constantly. I sold mine to them after 2 minutes of browsing yesterday.

The bots need the -50 hp focus to do their solo griffon farming, and they don't have the time to do the quests themselves.

Cyrinn · Jan 17, 2006, 11:10 PM // 23:10

Ohhh....well then I should try it with the ONE character that has done the first mission, heh. Thanks again.

Oct 18, 2005, 02:39 PM // 14:39	#21
Drognan Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Jackson, TN Guild: The Hellplague Profession: W/Mo	Sorry if this seems a little noobish, but WTF is the big deal about this item. I know it has something to do with a monk build, but why would you want your HP to be dropped by 50 points in the first place? Just curious...

Oct 18, 2005, 02:44 PM // 14:44	#23
quickmonty Ancient Windbreaker Join Date: May 2005	Protective Bond - Enchantment Spell While you maintain this "Enchantment", target ally cannot take more than 5% damage at one time. When Protective Bond prevents damage, you lose 6-3 energy or the spell ends. Lower HP = less damage = more efficient healing. Used for solo monk farming builds.

Oct 18, 2005, 06:30 PM // 18:30	#24
wiz12268 Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: California Guild: Men In Black	Item is overrated, and you can get plenty of -20 itmes with better mods. If all people are doing is hunting griffons, then they can easilly do that with 105, and NO minus HPs. I can take as many griffs as I can aggro with 105, and I never die. It does help against enemies that cause bleeding, but not a lot of people can hunt those anyways unless someone gives them a blueprint and a mp. Even then they get wiped pretty fast, especially if there is an interupt enemy there as well. As for whether or not it is nerfed. Doesn't really matter IMO, since there are A LOT of them kicking around. Most are 5-10K. Anyone that is farming doesn't care as they will make it up pretty quickly. If they did nerf it, I also doubt it would get seriously more expensive. if it did then one or two guys might actully buyone, and everyone else would not be able to sell. It doesn't do a whole lot. If you are not in UW just die and you get down to 33 health anyways. VERY overrated.

Oct 18, 2005, 06:58 PM // 18:58	#25
RobotMULE Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Sep 2005 Profession: Mo/W	but if you die and get 33 hp, then as soon as you kill a few mobs, your health goes back up very quickly.

Oct 18, 2005, 09:49 PM // 21:49	#27
RobotMULE Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Sep 2005 Profession: Mo/W	Lets say you're fighting a group of 15 griffons and 15 minotaurs at once. With 33 hp from dp, what can happen is all the minotaurs die before the griffons do (I forget which really die first but its just an example). Then you have 105 hp again, and the remaining 15 griffons may kill you. Its a hassle to run all the way back to pick up all the loot just sitting there. Basically with 55 hps, its easier to kill a larger group and move on directly to the next group without having to die again and run all the way back. The effect of healing breeze or mending (combined with prot spirit of course) is basically doubled with 55 vs 105 hp, which allows you to take groups twice as large.

Oct 18, 2005, 10:14 PM // 22:14	#28
wiz12268 Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: California Guild: Men In Black	You won't be able to aggro that many. I am not sure but I think the most that can actually get to you is 12 enemies. Not to mention that griffons will only come in 2 at a time so you aggro 4 groups you get 8 on you and 4 watching. I have tried to aggro as many as I can, I think 11 was the most I got (not counting scorpions and elementals) which are ranged. But unlesss you have SOJ and get it off those are guys you don't want to mess with. But I understand what you are saying. But against Griffons and minotaurs you shouldn't be dying at 105 or at 55. But by the time you get to 105 you should have enough of them killed to take the dmg. Think it takes 8 or 9 kills to get 15% DP erased.

Oct 19, 2005, 04:45 AM // 04:45	#30
Kool Pajamas Forge Runner Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Maryland Guild: Mage Elites [MAGE]	Its not clearly labeled in the QUEST DESCRIPTION.

Jan 16, 2006, 04:31 PM // 16:31	#32
Cyrinn Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jan 2006 Guild: The Blue Drakes	I just tried to get the quest and I could not. Definitely nerfed as of 1/16/05

Jan 16, 2006, 11:00 PM // 23:00	#34
I pwnd U God of Spammers Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: in the middle of a burning cornfield... Guild: Scars Meadows [SMS] (Officer)	They didnt nerf it, i just got it on my monk by doing the quest (finished it 10 minutes ago!!!)

Jan 16, 2006, 11:19 PM // 23:19	#35
theclam Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2005	The guy gives two quests. Only the second one gives the item.

Jan 17, 2006, 01:30 AM // 01:30	#36
Cyrinn Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jan 2006 Guild: The Blue Drakes	Thanks for the posts...I did "Counting the Fallen" and still no "cities" quest available. Did I miss something?

Jan 17, 2006, 01:41 AM // 01:41	#37
kvndoom Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Communistwealth of Virginia Guild: Uninstalled Profession: W/Mo	You have to complete your first mission, Northern Wall I think, and "Counting" quest, then he'll give the quest to you. My Ranger just got the item 2 days ago, so it hasn't gone anywhere.

Jan 17, 2006, 04:15 AM // 04:15	#38
Former Ruling Grotto Attendant Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cedartown, Georgia Profession: R/	I've gotten it on 4 more characters now (I deleted a few that were just past doing the quest and redid character), one merely a few days ago. I sell them from 6k-10k depending on how many minutes I want to spam selling it in Ascalon. Really isn't anything big.

Jan 17, 2006, 03:00 PM // 15:00	#39
Jetdoc Hell's Protector Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: The Eyes of Texas [BEVO] Profession: D/A	You can find a botter in Ascalon District 1 buying them for 10K almost constantly. I sold mine to them after 2 minutes of browsing yesterday. The bots need the -50 hp focus to do their solo griffon farming, and they don't have the time to do the quests themselves.

Jan 17, 2006, 11:10 PM // 23:10	#40
Cyrinn Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jan 2006 Guild: The Blue Drakes	Ohhh....well then I should try it with the ONE character that has done the first mission, heh. Thanks again.